“You expect me to relate to Israel! They’re a warring people!” This is what a guy I talked to today said. The whole thing started because he asked me about something he saw on T.V. There was a show called “The search for John the Baptist’s head.” The guy asked me what I thought about it. I said, “I wouldn’t put much stock in what the History Channel says when it comes to the Bible.” When I said that it was on!

Sometimes I am still caught off guard when it comes to this guy. It appears as though we are having a decent, calm conversation and wham! Anytime I have ever had a conversation with him he tries to tell me the Bible isn’t reliable. Today he said, “You know the men who wrote the Bible had an agenda don’t you?” He said, “The only people that were educated enough to translate the Bible were the King and the people who worked for him, so they wrote it to suit the King.” Of course there is no way I was going to attempt to untangle every deception he brought up, but I did respond. I said, “Did you know the Bible doesn’t paint Israel in a very good light? One of the reasons I believe the Bible, in fact, is precisely because it doesn’t leave out all the times they disobeyed God, did things wrong and cried out for him to rescue them. If I was going to write something that would make me look favorable I wouldn’t include all the times I messed up. I would make myself out to be the hero and successful wouldn’t you?”

I told him I believe the Bible, and he says, “What about the thousands of Chinese people that don’t believe and the pygmies? You’re going to tell me they are going to Hell? There has to be more than one way, there has to!” Yes, he really did bring up pygmies. My response to this was “that’s God’s business but yes that is what the Bible tells us.” I am just as amazed, not that Jesus Christ is the only way but that God even provided a way at all. He didn’t have to you know. He could have left us to go the direction we were going and not sent Jesus to rescue us. I said, “Either we are trusting in Jesus Christ or ourselves.” I told him “I don’t know about you, but I don’t trust in myself I’m trusting Jesus.” He said, “I do have faith in myself.” I said, “Well, maybe you can, but I can’t. That’s the beauty of God giving us a choice.”

It seems every time the Bible or Israel comes up we have this, shall I say, verbal fencing with one another. It doesn’t bother me on one level, because I know in whom I believe, but on the other hand I am saddened for him. For the most part he is a hard working, smart and funny guy; he just hasn’t come to the end of himself and his own efforts quite yet. When he does I hope I get the opportunity to be a part of it or at least talk with him. I couldn’t help thinking of the Apostle Paul today while talking to him. It says in Acts 9 that Paul was “breathing out threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord.” I am praying for this man. Maybe Jesus Christ will reveal himself to him as he did to the Apostle Paul that day even in the midst of the threats and violence.

Written by Louie


2 thoughts on “VERBAL FENCING

  1. I just listened to a teaching about just this very topic on choice. The Bible makes such spiritual sense, but everybody doesn’t see that so when they look at the Bible they find error because of all the ‘background noise’ in the world(news, media,etc).
    Proverbs 8:8-9
    New International Version (NIV)8 All the words of my mouth are just;
    none of them is crooked or perverse. 9 To the discerning all of them are right;
    they are upright to those who have found knowledge.
    We see God’s goodness, we check out his Word and we find out about Jesus Christ and what God made available because of what he did and we get holy spirit. God is good. That’s available for everyone (by free will choice)!

    • Amen! and Amen! Thank you Jesus Christ for being available to us all. It seems most of us don’t make that choice until the pain of staying the way we are exceeds the fear of believing in Jesus. In Psalm 139:5 NIV says, “You hem me in–behind and before; you have laid your hand upon me.”
      God has a way of hemming us in and the only choice we have is to accept him laying his hand upon us.
      Thanks so much for the input,

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